I sometimes fear that I have a reputation as being a complainer. Can’t think why. Although I think that most people who blog are people whose friends are sick of hearing them moan so they try and find another, safer outlet.
Anyways today I’m feeling positive. I’m determined to prove that it’s not all doom and gloom and what better topic to pick than my adopted country. It’s very very easy to complain about things when you live in a foreign country often blaming day to day problems on the country itself. So to show that windmillland can be pretty fantastic I’ve come up with ten great things about living here. Don’t worry, normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
1. There is no doubt about it but the Dutch are a great looking bunch of people. Doesn’t matter if they’re tall and blond or short and dark they’re usually still strikingly beautiful. And all of this without the ego to match. They’re generally down to earth and take their looks as being nothing unusual. Your average looking Dutchman could go to Ireland and become a supermodel overnight!
2. People have an incredible confidence about them here. From an early age there’s a feeling instilled in the Dutch that they can do anything. Of course this can also have a downside but I am not mentioning arrogance here as today’s is a positive post. I’m very jealous of people brought up in such a positive environment (ironic I know).
3. Boy do they know how to make bread. Even in the supermarkets you can buy delicious bread of all shapes and sizes with a whole variety of seeds and grains or whatever is your crunch du jour. Bread from the bakeries (there’s one on nearly ever street) is even better. I would seriously think about selling a couple of my best friends for a freshly baked pumpkin seed bread.
4. You can cycle anywhere in the land without fear of being laughed off the road or run down by speeding maniacs. Every single road in every town and city almost without exception has a bike path on both sides. In fact there are 10,000 kilometers of them! And it’s not just for green freaks or the poor either – everyone cycles here from grandparents to business men in suits. The Dutch are very proud that even a former queen used to cycle to the supermarket (that’s the very least she could have done if you ask me but that’s another story).
5. Being gay in the Netherlands just isn’t a big deal. It’s not even so much that it’s accepted or tolerated – it just isn’t so important which is exactly how I like it, thank you very much – I mean why should anyone care? I used to live in a big student house with about seven other people. It took over a year for some of them to find out I was gay. In Ireland that probably would have taken roughly ten minutes.
6. There is a much healthier attitude to alcohol in The Netherlands. You don’t see hoards of drunkards getting sick on the streets in the weekend or gaggles of young women wearing little more than belts with a can of cider in one hand and a hen night fairy’s wand in the other. And that’s not to say the Dutch don’t enjoy drinking because they certainly do. They just don’t drink to excess as a rule. The beer is served in glasses slightly bigger than half a pint which I find much more conducive for a good night out than the pint glass. The beer stays cool and fresh and it gives you a chance to take a break between drinks as you have to go to the bar more frequently. Also nobody looks at you like you’re George W if you have a coke or water for a round. Oh and incidentally the legal age to drink beer here is 16 and the bars/clubs stay open very late – is this the answer to sensible drinking?
7. You can fill your house with fresh flowers for almost no money at all. In spring tulips of all shapes, colours and sizes and in summer sunflowers galore. Just a couple of euro will fill a large vase and cheer up even the dullest day. What costs you about €30 in Ireland will be around €5 here.

8. The Dutch transport system is brilliant! As an Irish man from Tralee I was gobsmacked when I arrived to hear everyone complaining about trains being five minutes late. Five minutes late? I would exclaim in disbelief – sure that’s early! There are about six trains an hour from The Hague to Amsterdam and trains even run all night long in the Randstad so you can go out in Amsterdam and still catch the train at 3am to go home and begin hangover therapy. Twenty minutes will bring you to Rotterdam, 45 to Utrecht, 30 to Schiphol. All without ever changing in Mallow. And the most exciting thing is that they have double decker trains!

9. Sinterklaas. On the 5th of December the Dutch celebrate Sinterklaas. Santa Claus is basically the result of pimp my Sinterklaas (He looks like a red St Patrick). The focus here though isn’t so much on presents as on how the presents are packaged. People go to extreme creative lengths to wrap them in the shape of funny items. They spend hours and hours making cardboard castles and the like to put the gift into. It doesn’t stop there either as you have to write a poem to go with it. We’re talking less Wordsworth and more ‘There was a lad from Ballymuck…’ the whole lot together though is a lot of fun.

10. The Netherlands borders Belgium and Germany and is also within fairly easy driving distance to at least five other countries. An hour in the air (not talking smoking dope here) will bring you almost anywhere in Europe. So if you get sick of the yummy bread, positive attitudes and moderate drinking it’s as easy as pie to go somewhere else fabulous!
I haven’t even mentioned the scrumptious cheese, the pretty canals and crooked houses, the national park with an amazing museum hidden inside, the wonderful coffee …. well you’ll just have to come visit to see the rest!





I’m Sold.
I’ll be on a flight over in no time.
Hurray! A slice of pumpkin bread and a Grolsch goes to Alan
Having spent a rather wild weekend in Dublin with four English boys, one New Zealander and four Dutch people, I can safely agree with much of what you say. The Dutch (well, those four) are attractive in many senses of the word. There were three fabulously glam and tall ladies and when they were refused entry to The Dragon ‘cos it was too late, did they complain? Nah, they headed off to another bar, got friendly with the promotors and found themselves guests at a lock in for hours.
I’m l o n g overdue a visit methinks.
Conor,
That is such a brilliant list, and you wrote it so well I almost called the travel agent about half way through reading it.
Do you mind if I steal the idea (well, really, since I am asking permission I guess “borrow” would be a better term, and write a ten’ner about my adopted home, Australia?
Enda – About time indeed me lad!
Gaye – Oohh must certainly – I’d love to read it
ya me too
Bloody Hell!! So, so positive I am proud. There has to be something so good about here because while in England I could not wait to get out and came here for a year, six years later I just can’t seem to move away!!
And about that museum/castle in the park – nice is it? Cos I have a voucher that needs using up!
you had me at No. 4. i’m ready to emigrate! (even though the crabbiest guy in my workplace is Dutch.)
(and he ain’t no supermodel, either.)
Well hell, now I’ve got to organize a trip!
tallulah – you know what they say – a voucher is a present that keeps on giving
Laurie – maybe he’s really missing the bread hehe
Beth – how about doing something similar on Ireland?
wow! you’re from tralee? i just read this on ann’s blog. i was in tralee once, a long time ago. we walked past a field right in the middle of town and there were two horses grazing. and when we walked back an hour later, the horses had turned into whippets. it was mysterious and weird.
C,
On second thought, I might wait to have 10 great things to list about Ireland, before typing up for Australia, or I might just change my ticket and hop back on the plane to go there….
I can’t really write great things about my ex-home before I can write greater things about the place I am considering about making my future home… Does that make sense or am I talking bollocks as usual?
Where can I sign for that modeling contract? And does it involve any acting?
Grazing whippets – that is very weird indeed!
laurie – oh I think I know them – it’s Mrs o Connor and Mrs Mulligan from down the road
Gaye – no worries – although you could half it and do five on each hehe
hidh – I tell you what, as soon as my endemol contract is sorted I’ll get my people to contact yours
I was in Amsterdam twice when I was younger. The first time I was held up at (fake, I think) gunpoint within thrity minutes of my arrival.
The second time I got beaten up by the guy I went with after he ingested what turned out to be a dangerous cocktail of variously legal and illegal drugs. Dangerous for me, that is.
I can’t wait to go back.
Oh! I just only noticed. Did you say scrumptious cheese? I love cheese!! Especially with my whine…. No not a typo either
Ok, can I visit you? PLS PLS PLS! I dont know anyone in Holland. :p
Beautiful language too, although you seem to need a hell of a lot of spit to speak it. Can you buy bottled spit over there?
I fully agree with the things on Connor’s list and his reasons for writing it. There is a large group of English and Irish sociolgists around at the moment (some of whom are ex-colleagues) many of whom have been asking how I like it here after five years. Most of the things that you mention have been on the list (not so sure about the bread though – I think the Germans win that one hands down).
Three things I would like to add to the list. One is social cohesion – the difference between the rich and the poor is not nearly so visible here as in the UK and there are few ‘no-go’ areas. The rich don’t flaunt their wealth here. Second is the abundance of social housing – not everyone feels obliged to grab a toehold on the housing ladder the minute they have a regular job. A downside of thsi arangement is the waiting list for social housing can be very long – especially in popular areas. A third + is Dutch pragmatism- they know it is impossible to ban dope or prostitition so they ty to control and regulate them so they cause the minimum friction. They know empty houses get squatted (The NL has a strong radical trdaition although it not so visible today) so they have anti-squat organisations that arrange for people to live in an unused building until a new use is found for it.
The wonderful park and museum (gallery) is the Kroller-Muller. It is near Arnhem and has the second largest collection of Van Gogh paintings in the world.
Keep up your positive state of mind!
Ooh, pumpkin bread and Grolsch sounds good to me!
I have a friend who lived in the Netherlands, my favourite band is from there, and they don’t have issues with being gay…
Sounds good to me.
First, we took a vacation. And then, movin in
Nice blog! see ya!
worth it just for the cheap flowers, blokes not bad either.
“Santa Claus is basically the result of pimp my Sinterklaas”
hahahahahahahaha quality…
For the last year I’ve been planning a post like this on my adopted city, but I never get past number two. Since I’m leaving it very shortly to return home I would like to do it though. Maybe I’ll just copy yours and change a couple of words.
gimmeaminute – never a dull moment in good old Amsterdam
Gaye – come over for some cheese tasting!
K8 the Gr8 – you really do need very flexible throat muscles for it
Nick2 – I love the Kroller-Muller – actually I always forget just how much until I go back again. It’s time I think
Alan – especially early in the morning when you get home after a night out
arkano18 – what’s your favourite band then? I’m intrigued.
flirty – I keep telling you, you have to try it
Manuel – with a slice of St Patrick for extra zing
Eolaí – Oh please do, I’d love to know what you’d say
A red St. Patrick was so funny, Conor. Bread is my Achilles heel so I’d be huge if I lived there. Lovely list.
it’s been ages since my last visit…i need to plan another trip!
Great place. Always liked it. Must get over again soon.
medbh – I know – I have the same problem. Really have to ration myself.
Savannah – You certainly do!
Bock – It’s probably only just recovered from your last visit
Sounds nice – maybe I should move to the Netherlands after all? But first you’ll have to do a post with 10 things that suck about the Netherlands…
Conor – I think I could repost this on my blog as 10 Things I Miss Most About The Netherlands. I moved back to Dublin two months ago and I’m still missing my bike, krentenbolletjes, the easy train ride to Schiphol, 50 tulips for a fiver, and vaasjes. Talk about a culture shock.
lenfercest – I dare say I’ll get around to that some day
Cath – oohh I should talk to you – I’m always thinking about the big return myself – I could do with some advise
Ah, thanks for the lovely comment on my blog, Conor!
My main bit of advice so far – think looooooooong and hard about coming back. My return happened rather swiftly – five weeks from job offer to one way ticket out of Schiphol – and I think my brain is still playing catch up! So far, not so bad though.
Forget the social cohesion – those liquorice thingies – Dropjes or whatever they are called are great too. Add the black humour – always the fastest nation to come up with a sick joke after a global disaster – and you have a powerful combination. Mind you, quite a few buck teeth…
It’s funny to read what you think about this country. I am Dutch, so not able to say wheter you’re right or wrong (if anyone is) but thanks anyway!
Greetings,
Louz
Louz – very cool – thanks for the link, and oh, of course I’m right
Yo, …I agree with theese stuff, except from teh bread. Just travel down south to France, …there you’ll have proper bread and not just a cheap copy of it.
On the other hand, I can make a list of 1,000,000 thing I hate about The netherlands…easily.
I agree completely. I am an American who lived in Amsterdam for 2 1/2 years and after traveling in 22 counties, I still think of Amsterdam as my favorite city in the world. The Dutch seem to have found a common sense, pragmatic, enlightened, and balanced life style and should be looked to by much of the rest of the world as example.
You’re so right about Dutch men! I met one in Dublin a while back – very tall, dark and drop dead handsome. I’m still reeling that he showed an interest in an average Irish wan like me as he did the chasing. Usually it’s the other way round – gorgeous Irish girls have been known to skin their knees crawling after Irish guys. Me and the Dutch man lasted two months and I think my sense of bewilderment (what the hell are you doing with a yoke like me when you could be with any supermodel you wanted) drove him away. Going back to Irish men after being with the Dutch man is like going back to beans on toast after having dinner in a very posh restaurant.
you freaks, you scare me badly mostly that guy that smokes
were actually going to migrate there this year 2009.. im excited. im filipino and soon going to be dutch citizen! =)
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That WAS a great list, but the bread is better in Germany. As the confidence part…I dunno, those over-confident corps bollen that strut around my Albert Heijn look like they’re trying to hide some deep insecurities.
Great list!
I loved reading the 10 great things in the Netherlands. It’s making me homesick and wonder why I ever left… I’m happy to hear you are enjoying and appreciate our country
Thank you!
A bit late, but here we go:
You made a nice list of what’s cool about the Netherlands. But I do have to disagree with you here and there.
The drinking for example: the Dutch drink way too much from an early age. 16 is the legal drinking age over here, but most of us start at least a year or two earlier. I was running around with cases of beer at the age of 14 and often bought liquor at the age of 15 (you need to be 18 for that). Heck, even Germans say that we Dutch ‘can drink like maniacs’.
Also, a lot of the confident girls are real uptight bitches. Pretty? Yes. Attitude? Yep.
Now the Germans for example, they have some nice looking women without an attitude.
Also, if anyone ever visits the Netherlands, skip cess pools like Amsterdam. Rather visit one of the ‘large’ cities not located in the west. Travel to Utrecht or farther north, east or south. The Randstad is just one big criminal mess.
Randstad a criminal mess?
Number of crimes in 2007/ number of inhabitants 2011:
Amsterdam-Amstelland: 117 212/ 779 808
Rotterdam-Rijnmond: 108 598/ 610 386
Utrecht: 100 790/ 311 367 (criminal mess?)
http://statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/publication/?VW=T&DM=SLNL&PA=37932&D1=0&D2=0&D3=a&D4=6,11-13&HD=090506-1402&HDR=T,G3&STB=G1,G2
http://statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/publication/?DM=SLNL&PA=37230NED&D1=0,17&D2=0,111-112,119,121,128,178,202,213,230,232,234,260,264,269,288,295,298-299,340,342,345,373,413,477,488,500,532,542,555,610,l&D3=91,115&VW=T
I have been living in the Netherlands for 10 years, most of the points you raise are 100% spot on, however…..Dutch bread is bloody awful, there is no other word to describe it. Luckily Belgium is 5 mins away (Live in Maastricht) and there I can get perfect bread / rolls.
The best thing for me living here is CARNIVAL, everyone should come to Maastricht for Carnival.
Ehh it depends where you get it.. supermarket bread is appalling yet almost any real bakery will sell great bread and other stuff, especially whole wheat kinds of bread.. were not that keen on white bread like the french are so that might be slightly dissapointing..
i was once in denmark and bought a bread with nuts and it was about as heavy as a brick, sure i could have used it to kill someone haha
Why thank you
Odd thing is that most Dutch people still complain about the public transport, use of alcohol and the price of flowers
Arjan Hageman
(Rotterdam, Holland)
hehe we all complain don’t we, but we need to open our eyes a little wider to see how good we have it :~)
On Wed Sep 21st, 2011 10:56 PM CEST
How can you even think that the Dutch make good bread? It is a horrible squeeshy squashy eeuw thing. Most bakeries do not bake bread, they just reheat what they buy pre-fab that comes frozen. My only way to survive in Swampland is thanks to the Polish, French and Moroccan bakers in my hood. And as soon as I am over the border I buy bread to bring it back.
I don’t know where you come from but I guess from a horrible place?
well now, aren’t you a right charmer…
On Fri Sep 23rd, 2011 9:25 AM CEST
Seriously? How horrible does Ireland have to be if you can find all these things about the Dutch charming… I’m living here and I have to disagree with almost everything you put in a positive light here. I mean, come on, the bread??? Seriously??? The looks? I cannot show you one attractive guy in Groningen, that’s for sure. And you may call it positive attitude, but I’d rather call it annoying carefreeness and inability to care about other people than yourself. Seriously fed up with this country.
I can understand that it’s easy to get fed up with the differences you experience living in a foreign country, it’s normal. Try coming up with your own list of good things – it will do you the world of good.
I live in China, but i’m part French and part Dutch and i need to agree to everything you have said. I visit the netherlands every year and lived there for 2 years, it a great place. Visit Friesland, a bit cold but great! The bread is delicious especialy bolletjes and suiker brood (only made in frielsand).
I love the fact that there is green everywhere!! and dutch men are not too bad, but french men are better!
Ohh ad also enjoy Oranje Dag! great celebration day. Dutch people are very family type people. or at least my friends and family.